Comments on: The human web and sustainability by Philip Sheldrake https://www.druckerforum.org/blog/the-human-web-and-sustainability-by-philip-sheldrake/ Fri, 21 May 2021 18:03:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.0.3 By: The hi:project | Drucker Society – The human web and sustainability https://www.druckerforum.org/blog/the-human-web-and-sustainability-by-philip-sheldrake/#comment-416406 Fri, 21 May 2021 18:03:50 +0000 http://www.druckerforum.org/blog/?p=967#comment-416406 […] opportunity, on behalf of the hi:project, to contribute a pre-event post to the Drucker Forum – The human web and sustainability – reproduced here in […]

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By: Philip Sheldrake (@Sheldrake) https://www.druckerforum.org/blog/the-human-web-and-sustainability-by-philip-sheldrake/#comment-53931 Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:33:25 +0000 http://www.druckerforum.org/blog/?p=967#comment-53931 Hi Clifford, your comment references some big philosophical and sociological questions, some aspects of which I could contribute to at length, and some aspects of which I would defer to others with more appropriate knowledge and experience. In the short space here I would offer the following.

I will pick up on your choice of phrase, “imposing the standards”.

Standards are a funny thing. They can shackle and liberate, frustrate and inspire. The setting of and adherence to standards should come neither too early nor too late in any field, and yet adjudging that is far from easy in the moment.

Selecting a side of the road to drive on makes the road more usable to all. Adopting Web standards has allowed the Web to flourish in ways a free-for-all could never.

And I reference the Web specifically because the standards inherent to a realisation of the hi:project would be similarly proposed, debated, implemented and, likely, deprecated at some future point in time. It’s a process of consent rather than consensus, with all interested parties have the opportunity to contribute to the process.

So I hope the standards the hi:project requires over and above Web standards would have similar liberating qualities. And the similarity will extend to the thorough and yet, as many would attest, slow and painful process of development and ratification.

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By: Clifford https://www.druckerforum.org/blog/the-human-web-and-sustainability-by-philip-sheldrake/#comment-53827 Fri, 11 Sep 2015 09:16:26 +0000 http://www.druckerforum.org/blog/?p=967#comment-53827 Interesting article, very idealist, but we need ideals if we are to progress as a society.

I’d like to like to know more on how you can decentralisation and empower local groups whilst imposing the standards you propose.

I can’t think of any historical reference where decentralised communities didn’t continually fight over land or trade. Human nature being what it is the same would happen on a citizen’s internet.

How do you think we could overcome these issues through the use of a human interface?

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